Are you a narcissist?

Are you a narcissist?

  • I am a narcissist.

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Sometimes I am narcissistic.

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • No I am not a narcissist.

    Votes: 13 44.8%

  • Only at the gym.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • What is a narcissist?

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Total voters
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userque said:
Will do. But, I may still hang out in the non-political forums as well.
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I was not suggesting you stick to the political forums so no need to state the obvious - you may hang out wherever you like. I was merely stating where we'd most likely run into each other.
 
i got an 18 out of 40, so i think that means i am almost halfway a narcissist. i ranked highest in exploitativeness, authority, and exhibitionism, in that order. that is probably a pretty accurate test if you answer the questions quick and honestly.
 
LOL...right. And everyone maxed out their ACT/SAT test scores too.

Anyway,

Hopefully this will be helpful to any grown, narcissistic "class clowns:"

Thanks for the thread btw. :)

Class Clown
Class clown. : Narcissistic Personality Disorder Forum - Psych forums

"Postby bitty » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:05 am
I've seen this phrase used in the context of narcissism a few times, and it certainly applies to me. My humour, sometimes self deprecating, is something that I started to develop around the age of 13, because being pompous and self righteous wasn't doing me any favours.

Now, I cannot stop trying to be funny, often at inappropriate times, and it causes me to look foolish, and lose the respect of others.

Does anyone else relate? I'd be surprised if any of you do, to be honest, but this is a huge part of my life."

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Instead of enabling/encouraging narcissistic behavior, we should do the opposite.
 
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After you've read that, consider this jingle from the 70's. I believe it spread the seeds of narcissism like a cancer. After the advent of the internet/social-media, those seeds bloomed. We need a cure desperately!

The Most Important Person In The Whole Wide World
 
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naw just playing, i got 10 out of 40. A lot of the questions implied you need to be an extrovert to be a narcissist. Which you can't really tell someone's level on the introverted/extroverted scale on an internet forum.
 
jpcavin said:
Currently, the most widely used test to measure narcissim is the 40-item Narcissistic Personality Inventory. What are the odds of getting a narcissist to take that test? :laugh: A professor at Indiana University and her colleagues sought out to address the challenges of this test and as a result came up with the Single-Item Narcissim Scale (SINS). A study was done to replicate the findings of SINS and the single question did indeed correlate positively with the 41-item NPI questionnaire. Another positive for SINS is that unlike the 41-item NPI which captures people with milder narcissistic traits, SINS singles out the "hard-line" narcissist.

The single question is "Are you a narcissist"?







I was of the belief that a narcissist would never admit to being one. After reading this, it is my understanding that they have no problem claiming the title. The problem is that they don't see narcissism as being something bad...they are great and therefore deserve to be worshipped and admired!


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...01/how-profile-narcissist-one-simple-question
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UT OH!!!!!:laugh::D:laugh:

FS
 
What is it that Oprah Winfrey, Jack Welch, Martha Stewart, and Bill Gates all have in common? According to psychoanalyst, anthropologist, and consultant Michael Maccoby, it's not just enormous success and celebrity, it's narcissism. Challenging prevailing leadership theories, Maccoby argues that today's most innovative leaders are not consensus-building bureaucrats; they are productive narcissists with the interrelated set of skills -- foresight, systems thinking, visioning, motivating, and partnering that he terms strategic intelligence. Rejecting the negative stereotype of the individual who is destroyed by a pathological preoccupation with himself, Maccoby redefines the productive narcissist as the personality type who is best suited to lead during times of rapid social and economic change.

One of the most underrated and most important characteristics of productive narcissists is a sense of humor, especially about themselves. In fact, I would go so far as to say that humorless narcissist have little chance of succeeding. Why? Because it means that they're not grounded in reality and have no idea of how other people see them. To give an extreme example, Camile Paglia can joke that she dresses up as Napoleon for Halloween because she knows she's not Napoleon; she just jas a Napoleonic concept of herself and her achievements. I've found in my psychoanalytic practice that the patients who are humorless have the worst prognosis; those who can't laugh at themselves, see life's absurdity as well as its pain , are the hardest to treat.
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Their humor is usually self-effacing. For example, Rockefeller almost never used the word "I" - Standard Oil and the company was always referred to as "we" - unless he was telling a joke. Herb Kelleher was featured in a series of commercials for Southwest in which his employees took turns making fun of him, a self-effacing style he used in public and private. He once arrived at a dance for airline executives wearing a tutu and smoking a cigar. Martha Stewart appeared as herself on David Letterman with Martha Stewart's Worst Tips for Living. Number eight? "Add glitter to every damn thing you own." At the end of my interview with Craig Venter, he said, "I've talked a lot about myself." To which I said, "That was the point." Venter shot back, "As my PR guy says, 'It's always just about you, isn't it?' " Sidney Harman did a brief stint as a part-time president of an experimental college before he was let go, quipping: "I left as I came, fired with enthusiasm." David Gergen noted that "humor was the one place where [Ronald] Reagan might easily talk about himself." Reagan was able to joke about his age, the assassination attempt (telling the press "I forgot to duck")., his movie background. In a way, he was pointing out his weakness before anyone else could, a tactic that defused criticism
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This is one of the reasons to use self-effacing humor - it is an offensive tactic rather than defensive. When Phil Jackson got his team together to watch the game tapes, he spliced in movie scenes that poked fun at players' mistakes as a way of teaching them to lighten up about themselves. He knew humor was one of the ways he could get a bunch of superstars to acknowledge their vulnerabilities, to puncture their overblown egos and bring them down to earth.
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Narcissistic Leaders - Who Succeeds and Who Fails by Michael Maccoby

https://www.amazon.com/Narcissistic...70063670&sr=8-1&keywords=narcissistic+leaders

Also a good article on class clowns

What if we looked at class clowns differently? What if, instead of seeing them as a nuisance, we saw them as gifted? A little misguided, sure, but still gifted.
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Class Clown Or Gifted Student? It's A Matter Of Perspective : NPR Ed : NPR


Thinking back to my high school years, I can vouch that every class clown at my school was gifted. They scored the highest on the SAT and got into the best schools. They also made class more enjoyable. So personally, I don't believe being a class clown is necessarily a bad thing.
 
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jpcavin said:
What is it that Oprah Winfrey, Jack Welch, Martha Stewart, and Bill Gates all have in common?
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I disagree with their answer. Being successful doesn't necessarial indicate narcissism. Based on what little I know, Martha Stewart may qualify higher on the scale. Steve Jobs is more likely to have been a narcissist than Bill Gates, IMO.

I think use of narcissist/narcissism is sometimes overused today. NPD was not officially recognized until 1980 in DSM 3 and narcissism has gained in popularity ever since. It may be due to the growth of mass media, generational changes (Baby Boomer- The “Me” Generation” & now the Millennials-Generation Me) and/or something else.

The following has very good explanation (note: it does not include current candidates so I hope it is ok to post here). Jeffrey Kluger: Are you a narcissist? Run for President. https://youtu.be/E1syUip7hHY Primary characteristics: 1. Grandiosity, 2. Entitlement and 3. Lack of Empathy
 
evilanne said:
I disagree with their answer.
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I think the book is stating that being a narcissist isn't completely negative. Narcissists can be successful. I don't think it's saying that you have to be a narcissist to be succesful. IMHO

Not sure which part you are referring to. Just want clarification to your comment. Who's answer and what answer? The author? This is just one psychoanalysts's opinion.

I agree with your comment about overuse of the term "narcissist".
 
jpcavin said:
I think the book is stating that being a narcissist isn't completely negative. Narcissists can be successful. I don't think it's saying that you have to be a narcissist to be succesful. IMHO
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I would agree, though I haven't read the book. But that's like saying some folks can win the lotto. Well, yeah, they can, but it's still a bad bet.

jpcavin said:
I agree with your comment about overuse of the term "narcissist".
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IMO, the term is not overused...there are just a lot of narcissist folks around (in this generation). Some a lot more so than others. While the term may be used casually to refer to all degrees of the disorder; I feel it should be reserved for those exhibiting extreme traits of the disorder.
 
jpcavin,

I guess I should have included more of your message. "What is it that Oprah Winfrey, Jack Welch, Martha Stewart, and Bill Gates all have in common? According to psychoanalyst, anthropologist, and consultant Michael Maccoby, it's not just enormous success and celebrity, it's narcissism."

You could substitute any synonym for narcissism: vanity, self-love, self-admiration, self-absorption, self-obsession, conceit, self-centeredness, self-regard, egotism, egoism that have negative connotations; none of which I believe apply to all those named. Replace all those words with "self confidence" and I might agree. I don't think Ophra and Gates feel overly entitled but I do believe they both have empathy for others based on their actions.

I’m sure the people referenced would probably all score differently on the NPI test, which breaks down the results in 6 areas: Authoriity, Self-sufficiency, Superiority, Exhibitionism, Exploitativeness, Vanity, Entitlement—not all are necessarily good or bad. His book may make sense if he is trying to de-stigmatize the term narcissism but I just don’t see the point. There are plenty studies that look at a variety of characteristics, qualities or traits of good leaders.
 
Hey, 'Que !!!

Off topic !!! (Sorry, JP !!!)

Although I don't always agree with stuff you've posted before, I DO enjoy reading your "take" on the Board, and the market !!!

Here's my question : You've apparently posted (link in your sig !) your position on responding to posts in a thread...but when I check that link, I don't have access !!! Probably others in the same boat...

From what I've gathered, it must be the "Political" thread...not a member ; not going to BE a member !!! :D

Soooo...can you post your approach somewhere on the public boards, so I can read it ??? Tried a PM first, but no joy...

Thanks !!!


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