a little annoyed

[law87]

i feel really annoyed by some people in the US who think that the frisking and body scan at the airport should be banned, i mean cmon really? its there for a reason honestly if ya dont like it take a car, bus or a train. people keep saying it violate the 4th amendment but honestly they dont want to have terrorist on the planes either so theres just no happy ground for those people. they want a safer ride yet bitch about security being enforce...sorry i felt like ranting here since most of you guys are more mature and a little bit more easy to discuss things with, anyone got inputs?

 

[nnuut]

i feel really annoyed by some people in the US who think that the frisking and body scan at the airport should be banned, i mean cmon really? its there for a reason honestly if ya dont like it take a car, bus or a train. people keep saying it violate the 4th amendment but honestly they dont want to have terrorist on the planes either so theres just no happy ground for those people. they want a safer ride yet bitch about security being enforce...sorry i felt like ranting here since most of you guys are more mature and a little bit more easy to discuss things with, anyone got inputs?

I feel the same way!

 

[Buster]

even though I'm guilty of poking jokes..I'm the same way..better to be safe and felt up, than finding out some kook got through with a weapon of bomb of some kind...then those that objected intially would really bich for tighter screening..:notrust:

 

[James48843]

I am annoyed at all the screening, metal detectors, body searches, etc.

I would much rather that- at the boarding gate of every single flight, they pass out .38 caliber Colt six-shooters to anyone who would like one.

At the end of the flight, before you open the door, you collect up all the .38 caliber Colt six-shooter you handed out before.


You can rest assured that not a single terrorist would board any of those flights- knowing that about a hundred passengers on each flight are armed.

The founding fathers were very, very wise. They put that wording in the second amendment for a reason. It works. They should simply enforce the Constitution instead of spending all these huge sums on useless searching.


You are far, far more likely to be killed in the car from an accedent on the way to the airport, than you ever will be on an actual airplane flight.

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

I am annoyed at all the screening, metal detectors, body searches, etc.

I would much rather that- at the boarding gate of every single flight, they pass out .38 caliber Colt six-shooters to anyone who would like one.

At the end of the flight, before you open the door, you collect up all the .38 caliber Colt six-shooter you handed out before.


You can rest assured that not a single terrorist would board any of those flights- knowing that about a hundred passengers on each flight are armed.

The founding fathers were very, very wise. They put that wording in the second amendment for a reason. It works. They should simply enforce the Constitution instead of spending all these huge sums on useless searching.


You are far, far more likely to be killed in the car from an accedent on the way to the airport, than you ever will be on an actual airplane flight.

One problem I see with that plan, is that some moron will shoot himself/herself or the poor sap in the next seat, because he or she doesn't know how to handle a gun properly. It's one of those skills that isn't taught to children anymore.

 

[James48843]

One problem I see with that plan, is that some moron will shoot himself/herself or the poor sap in the next seat, because he or she doesn't know how to handle a gun properly. It's one of those skills that isn't taught to children anymore.

OK- so you got to get an "Armed Traveler Qualification Card" to draw an airline .38.

Two hours of safety briefing and range qual gets you a card. Training may be bypassed for Concealed Carry Holders, military personnel, and valid law enforcement personnel.

Hell, I'd even pay them $25 for the card.

;-)

 

[Warrenlm]

This topic is discussed in many separate threads over at Flyertalk.com in the Travel/Security forum. Thousands of sophisticated very frequent flyers contribute. Generally, the posted thoughts have those upstream here in the minority, primarily because the entire airport TSA "experience" is viewed as theater for the impressionable masses.

I'd be happier if the FAMs stopped taking upgrade seats. Especially now that they have permission to "dress down". I can accept the pornoscopes despite the health concerns. That's really all that TSA is wishing for in the aggressive enhanced pat-downs. They want to make it undesireable to "opt out" of the new AIT. Overseas locations don't allow "opt-outs".

 

[law87]

James48843, one problem is what if you miss and shoot through the plane causing the aerodynamic to be F! up then you would cause more harm then good.


or what if a terrorist know you have a gun and walk by and knock you on the head with a bottle of champagne, i dont care how super man you are, you gonna be knock out if a bottle champagne meet your head

 

[Callme_CO]

The only issue I have with the whole screening process if the ability for abuse or people's privacy.

 

[Nate]

I've been told FAM's use "less-lethal" bullets made of rubber or plastic that would not penetrate the fuselage.
I say allow all current & retired law enforcement and military personel to carry onboard if they choose. Have a quick 5 minute safety brief before boarding with one FAM who inspects everyone's authorized "less-lethal" rounds or approved tasers.
-This, or just get some of those 007 ejection seats.

 

[Show-me]

I'm looking forward to my next flight. I plan to take a big dose of Viagra and opt for the pat down and hope I get a attractive woman TSA agent. Should make for a interesting flight.

 

[FAB1]

You are So bad.

 

[JimmyJoe]

Can anyone say "farce?"

 

[Warrenlm]

I'm looking forward to my next flight. I plan to take a big dose of Viagra and opt for the pat down and hope I get a attractive woman TSA agent. Should make for a interesting flight.

At last a thread I know something about.
They don't permit you, as the selectee for enhanced pat down, to select the pretty lady TSO. You're guaranteed same gender. Not necessarily same sexual orientation though so Viagra won't do anything.

After Tyner in San Diego made his "junk" statement, humorous postings suggested certain actions but since then cooler heads have prevailed. Some stunts like the bra/panties of the disabled doctor and the speedos of the man have continued but die hard resisters of the pornoscopes AITs have had to settle for real hard pat downs and reports of problems like the man whose exterior bladder broke, the woman at her time of the month, etc. continue. Best advice is to remove absolutely everything FROM clothes, including items previously ok for the WTMDs and accept the government's new AIT scanning. Then submissively accept any follow on physical search. Stand by for the hand running up your leg until it meets "resistance."

 

[JimmyJoe]

At last a thread I know something about.
They don't permit you, as the selectee for enhanced pat down, to select the pretty lady TSO. You're guaranteed same gender. Not necessarily same sexual orientation though so Viagra won't do anything.

After Tyner in San Diego made his "junk" statement, humorous postings suggested certain actions but since then cooler heads have prevailed. Some stunts like the bra/panties of the disabled doctor and the speedos of the man have continued but die hard resisters of the pornoscopes AITs have had to settle for real hard pat downs and reports of problems like the man whose exterior bladder broke, the woman at her time of the month, etc. continue. Best advice is to remove absolutely everything FROM clothes, including items previously ok for the WTMDs and accept the government's new AIT scanning. Then submissively accept any follow on physical search. Stand by for the hand running up your leg until it meets "resistance."

Do this while %50 of the stuff in the baggage compartment goes unscanned.

 

[Warrenlm]

Right, except the percentage is higher. We only caught the Yemeni packages because of a tip to the Saudis and then we had two weeks....Can you say "theater"!!! And TSOs are impressed to find a knife. They have been lax on the 3oz bottles though. I had one outside my quart bag last trip.

 

[Steadygain]

i feel really annoyed by some people in the US who think that the frisking and body scan at the airport should be banned, i mean cmon really? its there for a reason honestly if ya dont like it take a car, bus or a train. people keep saying it violate the 4th amendment but honestly they dont want to have terrorist on the planes either so theres just no happy ground for those people. they want a safer ride yet bitch about security being enforce...sorry i felt like ranting here since most of you guys are more mature and a little bit more easy to discuss things with, anyone got inputs?

OK -- first time reading this but here's my input.

FIRST - and most importantly -- and I really mean this -- it wouldn't make any difference how 'practical' - or 'advantageous' something is -- anything that is placed upon a large population will always - and without exception bring 'The Grumblers' out to make a big stink.

So you have to expect this s*** and know it's par for the course.

SECOND - and most importantly - 99% of this is a bunch of BS totally in place to counter what happened on 9/11. Terrorists are a certain group of people wholly in place to cause significant destruction and death and thus cause widespread 'terror'. Federal Employees at the crucial 'working level' identified the 9/11 Terrorists and alerted their superiors prior to the Twin Tower Bombings -- that only went up a few levels before it was totally dismissed -- and that is why it happened.

THIRD - I personally believe it is totally ridiculous that treating every person to enter the airport like a criminal and making every 4th person take off their shoes - and openly making every person 'suspect' in any manner helps to identify 'Real Terrorists'. I think taking people like my parents, wife and kids, and family and me (and Birch) and making 'us' feel like we're about to enter a prison is 'insulting'. My point is US Citizens of flawless - outstanding character - should be given a card that rightfully allows them to take their flights 'hassle free'.

FOURTH - and most Importantly - when you have people like Bluehenge and Steel_Magnolia going through these 3D Body Scans -- It very much robs them of their 'Dignity' --- knowing they are totally exposed and their pictures could circulate for entertainment of millions. I would equally say that either one of these ladies would feel hugely violated have some stranger running their hands over their bodies.

So in conclusion -- I have NO Problem with the 3D Body scans and the searches - as long as me and my family, Steel_Magnolia, Bluehenge, Birch -- and ALL U.S. Citizens of 'outstanding character' have a means of Identification that allows them to by pass those of suspecious character, those with criminal backgrounds, and all others identified as 'questionable'.

Those who have an 'outstanding reputation' and have consistently lived with 'flawless character' and are wholly US Citizens have fully earned their RIGHT to be seperated from the others.

 

[WorkFE]

At last a thread I know something about.

Viagra?

 

[James48843]

... Stand by for the hand running up your leg until it meets "resistance."

Resistance is futile.

 

[Warrenlm]

New advice to all as to how to get explosives and firearms past the pornoscopes/AITs. The only solution is strip searches and body cavity inspections for all. Or the UN-politically correct Israeli method. Oh no, we can't do that. It might offend someone.
http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/12/...full-body-scanners-easily-duped/?ncid=webmail

Now the media is playing up the TSA presence at trains and subways. And the public reaction is "well, if it's for safety...." ah, submission.

When will Americans find something unacceptably intrusive and ask for a different method instead of their employees being told to treat everyone alike? Why sure, search that 80 year old nun. There is a .00003 probability it's a disguise. Now, much more than before, your purse, wallet, laptop etc are at risk as you are forced to lose sight of them. Now, you have to get your pockets emptied of everything except small lint. For theater and PC.