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Why are you afraid of the I fund?
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exnavyew
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If I recall correctly Tom mentioned in early Jan that the I-fund merited watching.
Now that it's made a 4-month run I'm afraid of 'buying the peak'. But then again with Europe QE and the U.S. market near all time highs it's worth a look. One pet peeve I have with the I-fund is not being able to track it in real time accurately. However for TSP purposes that really shouldn't matter I suppose. It simply bugs me.
Now that it's made a 4-month run I'm afraid of 'buying the peak'. But then again with Europe QE and the U.S. market near all time highs it's worth a look. One pet peeve I have with the I-fund is not being able to track it in real time accurately. However for TSP purposes that really shouldn't matter I suppose. It simply bugs me.
FireWeatherMet
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The I Fund was scary for me also...for many years.
However, I do remember that several years ago it did beat the pants off of all the rest of the funds, so "Every Dog Has His Day".
We might have a phobia over the I fund because ever since the Great Recession...the US was the "QE Leader" while other countries tried "Austerity". Result: S and C Funds generally outperformed the I Fund.
Seems Bernanke and our Fed were right all along...QE first, then ease out and perhaps gradually incorporate "Austerity" someday (lol).
So now that Europe is ditching Austerity and going "QE" while Chine regularly tries its own stimulus...and WE are starting to unwind ours, it is likely that this could be THE YEAR for the I Fund.
Remember...your fear is the brick that builds the wall that others climb up over you on.
Anyway...to try to get rid of my fear...this year when I have gone from 100% G into stocks...I have been mixing my exposure to the I fund...anywhere from a third to a little over a half...the rest in C and/or S. (below).
No one says you have to always put all your eggs in one basket.:smile:
However, I do remember that several years ago it did beat the pants off of all the rest of the funds, so "Every Dog Has His Day".
We might have a phobia over the I fund because ever since the Great Recession...the US was the "QE Leader" while other countries tried "Austerity". Result: S and C Funds generally outperformed the I Fund.
Seems Bernanke and our Fed were right all along...QE first, then ease out and perhaps gradually incorporate "Austerity" someday (lol).
So now that Europe is ditching Austerity and going "QE" while Chine regularly tries its own stimulus...and WE are starting to unwind ours, it is likely that this could be THE YEAR for the I Fund.
Remember...your fear is the brick that builds the wall that others climb up over you on.
Anyway...to try to get rid of my fear...this year when I have gone from 100% G into stocks...I have been mixing my exposure to the I fund...anywhere from a third to a little over a half...the rest in C and/or S. (below).
No one says you have to always put all your eggs in one basket.:smile:
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99percent
TSP Strategist
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Yeah, it's that "fair value" thing I don't get. Not enough ambition to study it! lol
FireWeatherMet
Market Veteran
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Yeah...I hear you.
Some smart @$$ thing Birch would say might be "yeah...keep on worrying over the I Fund...your bricks of worry is building me a higher wall to climb up on"
(LOL)But maybe another way to look at it "going the other way" is yesterdays action (below).
I fund got priced better than its daily action and lost much less than the other funds.
One thing I'm starting to figure out is its not just how big a funds "Up" days are, but also its "Down" days.
All that averaged in...its that "% Change month" and "% Change Year" number that matters most.:blink:
RealMoneyIssues
TSP Legend
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FV, no other reason... Been burned too many times
nnuut
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He was some kind of a Technician I think? Gilligan might be able to do it, he started a thread in the "I" Fund Forum all about FV.
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/the-i-fund/3111-what-fv-how-does-work.html
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/the-i-fund/3111-what-fv-how-does-work.html
FogSailing
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Good post. You could be right about the European QE...or not. I'm concerned about how long it's been since we've had a real correction. I can't shake the feeling that there are stronger long term structural forces at work here. I've decided to listen to my gut and am on the sidelines for now. Now that I've said that and gone all risk averse...enjoy the surge in the I fund that will probably occur and make the rest of you rich. I'll never be the smart money. :cheesy:
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Frixxxx
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Ebb and 350Z were really good, and we could catch some good IFT's when they weren't limited.We used to have a Member that could figure the FV out mathematically on a daily basis, BUT I forget his Screen Name? Hhuuummm?View attachment 33581
nnuut
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That's it 350Z is the one I remember did the daily calculations! 350zCommTech
Cactus
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Then it's time for a rest while C & S catch up, right?
Actually my aversion to the I Fund is the same as for the F Fund. You can't tell by looking at the market what you are going to get at the end of the day. Add to that the fact that when I do enter those funds I usually end up regretting it and taking a ride down you can see why I prefer to toggle between S & G.
FireWeatherMet
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Today is just another reason (of many...many reasons this past year) to NOT be afraid of the -I- Fund.
exnavyew
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I look at the %month and %quarter. The I fund just does a better job lately. My previous S fund was basically stalled or waffling over the same time period. But don't get me wrong. If anything weird happens Witt markets in general I will be running for the G fund.
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Valkyrie
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The Dollar Still Has Room to Fall
"After peaking at more than 100, the U.S. Dollar Index suffered a big pullback.
And with traders looking to sell the dollar into strength, I said we could see a
short-term decline down to around 94. If things got particularly nasty, I said
the dollar index could fall all the way to 88."
Last week, the dollar index reached our first downside target. And it's
likely that we'll see our second target soon...
Take a look at this updated chart of the dollar index plotted with its
Moving Average Convergence Divergence (MACD) momentum indicator and the Full
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"After peaking at more than 100, the U.S. Dollar Index suffered a big pullback.
And with traders looking to sell the dollar into strength, I said we could see a
short-term decline down to around 94. If things got particularly nasty, I said
the dollar index could fall all the way to 88."
Last week, the dollar index reached our first downside target. And it's
likely that we'll see our second target soon...
Take a look at this updated chart of the dollar index plotted with its
Moving Average Convergence Divergence (MACD) momentum indicator and the Full
Stochastic Oscillator indicator – another measure of momentum...
