What Happened To Global Warming, it's NOT!!

[Buster]

Glaciers melt? No kidding?..boy you are a real rocket scientist..thank God there was an end to the last Ice age..guess what? Glaciers melted and water levels rose..it's a natural affect...and guess what again?..Man wasn't around then when that started to happen and today is still a continuation of that process.....
Do you realize you are sounding more ignorant with every post, or do you also believe Grape Nuts is a venereal disease too?

 

[nnuut]

We seem to be going over the same things over and over, remember common sense!:suspicious:

 

[Buster]

We seem to be going over the same things over and over, remember common sense!:suspicious:

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Unfortunately, COMMON SENSE and FWM is an Oxymoron..:laugh:

 

[nnuut]

I hope they all go broke!!:nuts:
You will pay for all of this not the companies!


‘Tainted’ Credits Cut UN Carbon Price: Energy Markets (Update1)

By Mathew Carr

May 19 (Bloomberg) -- Emission traders’ most-profitable credits, linked to greenhouse gases considered more harmful than carbon dioxide, are dragging the United Nations carbon market to its biggest discount in a year.
The UN faces a devaluation of the tradable credits it gives investors that pay for projects to reduce hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, because the European Union may favor alternatives such as windfarms to combat global warming. UN offsets for 2012 traded at 4.02 euros ($4.90) a metric ton less than comparable EU permits, almost twice the spread at the end of last year.
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Royal Dutch Shell Plc are among investors that may get lower returns amid a clampdown on HFCs, which are known as “super gases” because they can trap 11,700 times more heat per molecule than CO2. Bloomberg New Energy Finance said the UN market may fall into two tiers by 2013, with “low quality” offsets dropping to about 7 euros versus 11 euros for those not affected by any EU discount.
“The market believes these offsets are environmentally tainted” because it is marking down HFC projects, said Alex Desbarres, an energy analyst with Datamonitor in London, which provides analysis of energy markets.
While UN Certified Emission Reduction units for delivery in 2012 are up 4.7 percent this year, their discount against EU permits for 2012 is widening on London’s European Climate Exchange. The difference was 4.20 euros a ton on May 13, the largest spread since May 20, 2009, and twice as much as in December, when envoys in Copenhagen were unable to extend the 1997 Kyoto Protocol. The December 2012 UN contract fell as much as 1.8 percent today to 11.97 euros, its lowest for a month.
Ozone Layer
HFCs, emitted in the production of chemicals for air conditioning and refrigeration, gained favor in the 1970s as an alternative to chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, which scientists linked to depletion of the ozone layer. While HFCs don’t interfere with the earth’s shield against damaging sunrays, they trap heat and contribute to global warming.
About half of the 408.8 million credits issued since October 2005 by the UN’s Clean Development Mechanism, the second-largest emission markets, stem from plans to cut HFCs.
The projects are profitable because investors can get credits valued at hundreds of millions of euros after spending about $12 million to construct and $2 million a year to operate facilities that burn away HFCs before they escape into the atmosphere, according to World Bank estimates.
Tires and Chemicals [more]
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aK20XQ7MHofQ&pos=7

 

[Buster]

HFCs, emitted in the production of chemicals for air conditioning and refrigeration, gained favor in the 1970s as an alternative to chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, which scientists linked to depletion of the ozone layer. While HFCs don’t interfere with the earth’s shield against damaging sunrays, they trap heat and contribute to global warming.
About half of the 408.8 million credits issued since October 2005 by the UN’s Clean Development Mechanism, the second-largest emission markets, stem from plans to cut HFCs.
The projects are profitable because investors can get credits valued at hundreds of millions of euros after spending about $12 million to construct and $2 million a year to operate facilities that burn away HFCs before they escape into the atmosphere, according to World Bank estimates.
Tires and Chemicals [more]

Kind of a "Damned if you do and Damned if you don't" kind of thing..even though CFC/Ozone hole is a bunch of Bull Sh!t as I posted earlier.

 

[nnuut]

OVER AND OVER (This is getting old) again we can see who ever is making these scientific decisions DON'T KNOW a damn thing (as they say in GA) or is making them for political or monitory reasons.

 

[FundSurfer]

http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=05192010

STRONG EVIDENCE ON CLIMATE CHANGE UNDERSCORES NEED
FOR ACTIONS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS AND BEGIN ADAPTING TO IMPACTS

WASHINGTON — As part of its most comprehensive study of climate change to date, the National Research Council today issued three reports emphasizing why the U.S. should act now to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and develop a national strategy to adapt to the inevitable impacts of climate change. The reports by the Research Council, the operating arm of the National Academy of Sciences and National Academy of Engineering, are part of a congressionally requested suite of five studies known as America's Climate Choices.

"These reports show that the state of climate change science is strong," said Ralph J. Cicerone, president of the National Academy of Sciences. "But the nation also needs the scientific community to expand upon its understanding of why climate change is happening, and focus also on when and where the most severe impacts will occur and what we can do to respond."..........

This should stimulate Nuut for days....:laugh:

 

[nnuut]

Thanks FS good info, but I haven't had time to read the whole thing, HA~! I sound like a Democrat!!:laugh::laugh: I just hope they know what they are talking about this time?

 

[nnuut]

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