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Sometimes it's just fun to read a little about TSP history. If you've been a fed for a while, you probalby already know that http;//govexec.com is one (but not the only one) site that has covered the TSP as a news angle for quite some time.
Just for fun, here is a little walk down the TSP memory lane, from nine years ago, when TSP only had three funds- the G, the F, and the C fund. And some info on how much people were investing back then.
From January of 1998, we bring you the 10th anniversary of the 1987 crash, and how TSP'ers were progressing then. Remember, this was written before TSPTALK existed, and long before daily valuations came into existance.
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Nest Egg
By Eric Yoder Government Executive January 1, 1998
en years ago, hard on the heels of the stock market crash of 1987, the government offered federal and postal employees a new option: They could take their retirement savings out of boring government securities and put them in stocks and bonds.
The initial response was underwhelming. Partly due to skittishness and partly due to restrictions on how much could be put in the thrift savings plan's common stock (C) and fixed-income bond (F) funds after their startup in January 1988, the two new funds began as poor cousins to the government securities (G) fund. In early 1991, when the restrictions were lifted, the G fund's $193 million in assets was 15 times the amount of the other two funds combined.
But since then, participants have steadily shifted both newly invested and previously invested money into the C fund. Helped by several years of roaring stock markets, the C fund became the largest of the three funds in June 1997. As of September, there was $27.9 billion in the C fund, $24.7 billion in the G fund and $2.8 billion in the F fund.
The TSP as a whole now has a record $55.5 billion and is growing by $1 billion a month. Participation rates also are at an all-time high. About 84 percent of employees under the Federal Employees Retirement System invest some of their own money in the plan (the rest have accounts holding only an automatic government contribution equal to 1 percent of their salary), while 56 percent of employees under the Civil Service Retirement System are investing. Four-fifths of investors now have some money in either the C or F funds.
In a world of bewildering investment options, the TSP stands out for its simplicity in fund choices and attractive features - low overhead costs, tax deferral of investments and earnings, and employer contributions of up to 5 percent of salary for those under FERS.
"I think it is relatively straightforward, and I have to say I think that is one of the reasons our participation rate is as high as it is," says Roger W. Mehle, executive director of the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board, which operates the TSP. "And I think that seeing the investments in the C and F funds continue to grow should indicate a growing comfort on the part of federal employees with the plan. I think for many federal employees it is the only avenue."
Market Timers
Even though the TSP has been operating for more than a decade, the board still is working to educate employees about the program. For example, agency TSP coordinators were told at a recent meeting that some CSRS employees still believe they cannot participate, even though they can. (Unlike FERS employees, however, they get no contribution from their agencies.)
Meanwhile, many employees think of the TSP as a mutual fund, which it is not. A better analogy is to private sector 401(k) programs, which also invest employees' money for retirement.
Starting in about two years, when a new computer system is installed, the TSP will become more like the best 401(k) plans. The new system will allow the creation of two more investment funds, tracking indexes of international stocks and small capitalization U.S. companies, and will allow investors to mix and match their withdrawal options when they retire.
The new system also will bring the TSP up to standards in the 401(k) and mutual fund industries by providing daily valuations of accounts. Under the current system, TSP accounts are calculated, and transactions are processed, monthly. Investors are limited to one interfund transfer per month.
Daily valuation will allow what some TSP investors long have been seeking - the ability to check their balances and transfer money as often as each working day.
Some financial experts don't think that's a good idea. "I suppose it will let people make changes and have the change occur instantaneously and that's valuable, but if it encourages people to be shifting around more frequently, that will probably lower their rate of return in the long run," says Mark Waldman, a Falls Church, Va., certified financial planner who advises employees about their TSP investments. "I think that's going to lead some employees either to try to game things, which they're not going to do well at, or to act on their immediate emotions, which are usually not a good guide to making investment decisions."
TSP investors haven't shown much talent for market timing. For example, after the C fund dropped more than 4 percent in March 1997, investors broke the long-term pattern of gradually moving money into stocks by shifting $113 million out of the C fund in April. By doing so, many of them missed the C fund gains of nearly 27 percent in the next four months.
The only extended period of shifting out of the C fund since the original investment restrictions were lifted ran from May 1994 through February 1995, when the stock market was flat. TSP participants who shifted a total of $175 million out of the C fund during that period missed the start of a three-year stock rally.
"This is a long-haul investment, it is not a trader's investment," says Mehle. "Look at the monthly returns of the C fund and you'll note the extreme variability of the returns - up, down, up, down. So you would be whipsawed if you tried to outguess the C fund, invariably taking your money out when it was at its low and putting your money back in when it's high."
Nonetheless, there is demand for more active trading in the plan. TSP investment clubs, some formal, some less so, are operating in many agencies. Mehle recalls receiving a letter from a group of employees who asked to make daily transactions, saying they had developed theories they wanted to apply.
"I'll bet you they number among the people in April who took their money out and missed the upswing thereafter," he says. "You have a handful of people like that. I'm concerned about those people, but after all, it's a free country."
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Just for fun, here is a little walk down the TSP memory lane, from nine years ago, when TSP only had three funds- the G, the F, and the C fund. And some info on how much people were investing back then.
From January of 1998, we bring you the 10th anniversary of the 1987 crash, and how TSP'ers were progressing then. Remember, this was written before TSPTALK existed, and long before daily valuations came into existance.
===============================================
Nest Egg
By Eric Yoder Government Executive January 1, 1998
The initial response was underwhelming. Partly due to skittishness and partly due to restrictions on how much could be put in the thrift savings plan's common stock (C) and fixed-income bond (F) funds after their startup in January 1988, the two new funds began as poor cousins to the government securities (G) fund. In early 1991, when the restrictions were lifted, the G fund's $193 million in assets was 15 times the amount of the other two funds combined.
But since then, participants have steadily shifted both newly invested and previously invested money into the C fund. Helped by several years of roaring stock markets, the C fund became the largest of the three funds in June 1997. As of September, there was $27.9 billion in the C fund, $24.7 billion in the G fund and $2.8 billion in the F fund.
The TSP as a whole now has a record $55.5 billion and is growing by $1 billion a month. Participation rates also are at an all-time high. About 84 percent of employees under the Federal Employees Retirement System invest some of their own money in the plan (the rest have accounts holding only an automatic government contribution equal to 1 percent of their salary), while 56 percent of employees under the Civil Service Retirement System are investing. Four-fifths of investors now have some money in either the C or F funds.
In a world of bewildering investment options, the TSP stands out for its simplicity in fund choices and attractive features - low overhead costs, tax deferral of investments and earnings, and employer contributions of up to 5 percent of salary for those under FERS.
"I think it is relatively straightforward, and I have to say I think that is one of the reasons our participation rate is as high as it is," says Roger W. Mehle, executive director of the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board, which operates the TSP. "And I think that seeing the investments in the C and F funds continue to grow should indicate a growing comfort on the part of federal employees with the plan. I think for many federal employees it is the only avenue."
Market Timers
Even though the TSP has been operating for more than a decade, the board still is working to educate employees about the program. For example, agency TSP coordinators were told at a recent meeting that some CSRS employees still believe they cannot participate, even though they can. (Unlike FERS employees, however, they get no contribution from their agencies.)
Meanwhile, many employees think of the TSP as a mutual fund, which it is not. A better analogy is to private sector 401(k) programs, which also invest employees' money for retirement.
Starting in about two years, when a new computer system is installed, the TSP will become more like the best 401(k) plans. The new system will allow the creation of two more investment funds, tracking indexes of international stocks and small capitalization U.S. companies, and will allow investors to mix and match their withdrawal options when they retire.
The new system also will bring the TSP up to standards in the 401(k) and mutual fund industries by providing daily valuations of accounts. Under the current system, TSP accounts are calculated, and transactions are processed, monthly. Investors are limited to one interfund transfer per month.
Daily valuation will allow what some TSP investors long have been seeking - the ability to check their balances and transfer money as often as each working day.
Some financial experts don't think that's a good idea. "I suppose it will let people make changes and have the change occur instantaneously and that's valuable, but if it encourages people to be shifting around more frequently, that will probably lower their rate of return in the long run," says Mark Waldman, a Falls Church, Va., certified financial planner who advises employees about their TSP investments. "I think that's going to lead some employees either to try to game things, which they're not going to do well at, or to act on their immediate emotions, which are usually not a good guide to making investment decisions."
TSP investors haven't shown much talent for market timing. For example, after the C fund dropped more than 4 percent in March 1997, investors broke the long-term pattern of gradually moving money into stocks by shifting $113 million out of the C fund in April. By doing so, many of them missed the C fund gains of nearly 27 percent in the next four months.
The only extended period of shifting out of the C fund since the original investment restrictions were lifted ran from May 1994 through February 1995, when the stock market was flat. TSP participants who shifted a total of $175 million out of the C fund during that period missed the start of a three-year stock rally.
"This is a long-haul investment, it is not a trader's investment," says Mehle. "Look at the monthly returns of the C fund and you'll note the extreme variability of the returns - up, down, up, down. So you would be whipsawed if you tried to outguess the C fund, invariably taking your money out when it was at its low and putting your money back in when it's high."
Nonetheless, there is demand for more active trading in the plan. TSP investment clubs, some formal, some less so, are operating in many agencies. Mehle recalls receiving a letter from a group of employees who asked to make daily transactions, saying they had developed theories they wanted to apply.
"I'll bet you they number among the people in April who took their money out and missed the upswing thereafter," he says. "You have a handful of people like that. I'm concerned about those people, but after all, it's a free country."
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