The TALLY

[FundSurfer]

I started keeping track of a few people I know are faithfully posting there moves. I like to see how people are doing. You should not use just this post to judge how people are doing totally befacuse we don't have a long track record yet. As an example, TSP-Tom is doing very well since October but he had a very bad July/August.

Since 10/1 Last 30 Days #moves

Tsp-Tom 7.73% 3.53% 13

Namor 4.17% 2.0%29

Rod 4.57% 2.85% 22

Mike 5.14% 4.13% 12

FundSurfer 7.11% 2.81% 8

Zbwmy 6.91% 2.08% 0 (80%c 20%s long)

Dakota *5.96% 2.48%13 (started 10/26)

Show-me ** 1.90% 1.00% 10 (started 10/28)

Milk II *** 3.94% 6 (started 11/19)

C Fund 6.43% 1.61%

S Fund8.80% 3.95%

I Fund 10.86% 3.12%

20 Each Fund 5.58% 1.97%

The calculations ending date was 12/7.

I got these numbers using the post from each account talk list. If you are a regular poster but I missed you it was because I either felt you were not posting regularly and had quit or you were not posting in the right place. If you want to check the numbers, I'll e-mail Tom the spreadsheet for him to post --- WARNING : The spreadsheet is slightly different than Tom's.

 

[tsptalk]

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FundSurfer -
I really appreciated this!! :^ I have wanted to keep track of everyone, but I just didn't have time to do it.

One thing, how did you determine the # moves? I only count 9 for me in last 30 days, not 13.

Thanks again!
Tom

 

[Mike]

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Not bad, considering I've been developmentally disabled with regards to my moves in the past two weeks.

Let's see... thought I'd get a flat to slightly up day to reduce my S exposure, then I read the share price fell 22 cents when I woke up at 9 pm. Then the markets were down big early the other day, so I move my G into C, thinking I'll get a break on the price... only to wake up that night and see the market finished higher.

Arrrrrrgh.

 

[FundSurfer]

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Number of moves is from 10/1 not 30 days. I copied your transactions from your posted spreadsheet.

I don't mind keeping a running tally now that it is set up. Fairly easy to enter in the new spreadsheet and I set up the fund prices as a lookup table so I only add that to the spreadsheet once.

 

[tsptalk]

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Here is FundSurfer's TALLY spreadsheet...

[url]http://www.tsptalk.com/utilities/tsp-score.xls[/url]

 

[Timer]

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Wow FS, what a valuable service - Thanks!

 

[Dakota]

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good show here here

 

[tsptalk]

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FundSurfer wrote:

Number of moves is from 10/1 not 30 days.

Doh! I see. Sorry. :dah:

 

[Show-me]

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Great job FS! Wish I could say the same for my account. Looks like I need to be a buy and hold kind of guy.:?:dah::#:*:%Alot of emotion here. lol

 

[Rod]

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Show-me wrote:

Great job FS! Wish I could say the same for my account. Looks like I need to be a buy and hold kind of guy.:?:dah::#:*:%Alot of emotion here. lol

Don't worry about it.

It just goes to show that you don't ride the coat-tails of others. You take it upon yourself to study the market, while digesting everyone's comments, then making a move which you believe is best.

It's definitely a learning experience. We all have our UP & DOWN days.

Ifsomeone simply follows Tom's or any of our moves without doing any analysis for themselves or without participating in this site, they will bein a world of hurtifthis siteeverceases to exsist for whatever reason.

God Bless:^

 

[Show-me]

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It at least allows me to go back and see what not to do. I have 20 years to go.

 

[grandma]

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Rod wrote:

. You take it upon yourself to study the market, while digesting everyone's comments, then making a move which you believe is best.

It's definitely a learning experience. We all have our UP & DOWN days.

Ifsomeone simply follows Tom's or any of our moves without doing any analysis for themselves or without participating in this site, they will bein a world of hurtifthis siteeverceases to exsist for whatever reason.

God Bless:^

Show-me, I think it is great you can not only do the market studying, but that you can find What to digest from everyone's comments! I read everyone's entries, but I find Iit is gettting harder & harder todeduce what some are actually doing & their rationale, d/t the increasing amount ofinnuendos, insinuations, unnecessary comments inserted between pertinant infomation.I don't have time for anything other than `the facts, sir, please, just the facts.' (And - as far as typing & spelling, I spend more time backspacing than I do going forward!!) Thank you for your sharing of your actions, and your expected actions, I appreciate all the entries, I just hate spending an hour or two searching thru the irrelevant, I don't really care what one thinks of another this afternoon. I have to, sorry, I GET to go work now!!!

 

[Show-me]

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grandma wrote:

Show-me, I think it is great you can not only do the market studying, but that you can find What to digest from everyone's comments! I read everyone's entries, but I find Iit is gettting harder & harder todeduce what some are actually doing & their rationale, d/t the increasing amount ofinnuendos, insinuations, unnecessary comments inserted between pertinant infomation.I don't have time for anything other than `the facts, sir, please, just the facts.' (And - as far as typing & spelling, I spend more time backspacing than I do going forward!!) Thank you for your sharing of your actions, and your expected actions, I appreciate all the entries, I just hate spending an hour or two searching thru the irrelevant, I don't really care what one thinks of another this afternoon. I have to, sorry, I GET to go work now!!!

Amen! Although I sometimes get in arut too. I will try to do better.

 

[Guest]

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Please excuse my typin, two of my keys are stuck.........

Fund, Im not completely sold on postin tese returns, I didnt start postin my returns to embarass any of my fellow account posters. But if no one else as a problem wit it, I dont eiter...........

BTW, for te record........for te last 30 days my new system is up 5.27% from Nov 7 - Dec 7...........:^

 

[Timer]

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Who's a statistition in the group? Looking at FundSurfer's chart, what is the coorelation between number of moves and return in the periods shown? Looks like generally, the investors who tended to make fewer moves made the most money. :i It would be interesing to know ifwas trueover a longer time period for these investors. Not complaing about the results, there are many good outcomeshere even amoung those who channged allocations often.

 

[Mike]

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I made few moves and got killed in the summer, so no, fewer moves does not yield greater returns all the time.

I doubt I'll do anything more for the rest of the year. I'll stay fully invested 'til mid-January at least. I might do shifts away from S and I into C *if* C shows greater strength. If not, I'll just leave the allocations totally alone.

Selling I fund shares after several down days in a row is a bad idea - unless you believe it'll keep dropping. If the dollar stabilizes after this little rally or falls back again, the I fund will jump. With the foreign gov'ts not acting to prop the dollar just yet and with the current account deficit being so freakin' high, I believe this mini dollar rally is unsustainable. So, aside from watching for the potential take-off of C, I don't believe I'll pay a whole lot of attention to share prices for the next two weeks.

Edit: almost as if on cue, the foreign markets are up in early trading and the dollar is down 0.6% against the Euro. :shock:

 

[Rod]

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Mike wrote:

Selling I fund shares after several down days in a row is a bad idea - unless you believe it'll keep dropping. If the dollar stabilizes after this little rally or falls back again, the I fund will jump. With the foreign gov'ts not acting to prop the dollar just yet and with the current account deficit being so freakin' high, I believe this mini dollar rally is unsustainable.

Edit: almost as if on cue, the foreign markets are up in early trading and the dollar is down 0.6% against the Euro. :shock:

Yes... although I took a hit on Friday in the (I), I was hesitant to sell low hoping I would at least get the majority of those losses back this week. By the looks of the foreign markets this morning, I just may get my wish. If it still looks strong around noon, I may pull back some.

Happy Christmas!:^