The Stimulus "Extras" (aka, the pork)

budnipper1 said:

At little off topic, but I saw on the news today that the old lady who tearfully begged Obama, during one of his pep-rally speeches, to help her get another home with a kitchen, got what she begged for. Some politician's wife stepped up and donated a 3 BR, 2 bath house to her, for as long as she needed it. I guess I'm supposed to get all choked up with emotion. Guess my heart is cold. The way I sum that up is, " That's ONE individual saved by BHO"! Now, all he has to do is give EVERYBODY else a free house and then EVERYBODY will be shouting YES WE CAN and praising his name. Let's see how many more houses he can pull out of his halo.

Obama is nothing but a smooth-talking con-artist who has an effective speech writer on his payroll.
But, he's got plenty of people with their hands out who will swear that he can do no wrong while shouting,
"Ain't this welfare great?"
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Budnipper,

It's funny you said, your heart is cold. I've been telling my wife for the past month or so, that my sympathy level is on empty, for the same reasons you mentioned above. These people stupidly get over their heads and then expect us working taxpayers to bail them out, unfortunately those folks that need help are getting painted by the same brush.

Yeah ain't welfare great. His voters will turn against him when they find out that he can't pay for their homes and cars and that they'll actually have to grow up a little and pay their own bills, though welfare removes the incentive to actually be productive.

My contributions to those in actual need will continue to be used locally where I know exactly where the money or needed items are going. I'll call them my local earmarks, since the Dems and BHO are just being bold faced liars when they say there aren't going to be earmarks. :laugh:

CB
 
hessian said:
Hey Budnipper,
Ya know I love ya, so I know you'll receive this in the spirit intended:
Just how much money would Ramsey, or anyone in DC say exists?? (Problem is there doesn't seem to be any established sum!) :rolleyes::sick::(
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I think "brother Dave" would say there is an infinite amount of
money that COULD be thrown at the system, because if they
ran out, they would just print some more.

In the vid, however, what he said is that "throwing ANY amount
of money at the problem" is NOT the solution. He said that
the American people will have to eventually bail themselves out. By
living within their means instead of constantly using credit, and by
starting small businesses instead of depending on large companies
to provide them with jobs. At least, that's how I interpreted what
he said. Again, I stopped listening to Ramsey a long time ago because
I had already listened to him long enough that everything
he said was like watching summer re-runs. His advice is generally aimed
at folks who cannot manage their money, and for them, his
advice is good. I learned what he teaches the hard way, so he's
preaching to the choir in my case.

At little off topic, but I saw on the news today that the old lady who tearfully begged Obama, during one of his pep-rally speeches, to help her get another home with a kitchen, got what she begged for. Some politician's wife stepped up and donated a 3 BR, 2 bath house to her, for as long as she needed it. I guess I'm supposed to get all choked up with emotion. Guess my heart is cold. The way I sum that up is, " That's ONE individual saved by BHO"! Now, all he has to do is give EVERYBODY else a free house and then EVERYBODY will be shouting YES WE CAN and praising his name. Let's see how many more houses he can pull out of his halo.

Obama is nothing but a smooth-talking con-artist who has an effective speech writer on his payroll.
But, he's got plenty of people with their hands out who will swear that he can do no wrong while shouting,
"Ain't this welfare great?"
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budnipper1 said:
On the same page is a link to ABC's 3 minute interview with Dave Ramsey.
I'm not a fan, but Ramsey says there is not enough money in Washington to fix this mess and I agree. He also says freeing up more credit to people who couldn't afford to buy a house is what started this crap in the first place. Why do they think doing that again will help? Again, duh!

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Hey Budnipper,
Ya know I love ya, so I know you'll receive this in the spirit intended:
Just how much money would Ramsey, or anyone in DC say exists?? (Problem is there doesn't seem to be any established sum!) :rolleyes::sick::(
 
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) predicted on Thursday that none of his Senate colleagues would "have the chance" to read the entire final version of the $790-billion stimulus bill before the bill comes up for a final vote in Congress. “No, I don’t think anyone will have the chance to [read the entire bill],” Lautenberg told CNSNews.com.

[Editor's note: The first PDF, as posted on the House Appropriations Committee website as of 8:20 AM Friday morning, had grown by 72 pages to 496 pages, increasing the length of the total document to 1,071 pages.]

http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=43478

There is plenty to complain about for everyone, and perhaps that’s the sign of a good compromise,” said U.S. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, a Missouri Democrat. “Regardless of party, we all cast our votes with one hand and crossed our fingers with the other.

http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/1032285.html

One of the most important pieces of legislation that they will pass and these comments make me feel so warm and fuzzy about our future and what kind if will be. :nuts:

CB
 
budnipper1 said:
Congress will finish its work on a massive, $787 billion economic stimulus plan, possibly by day's end, giving President Barack Obama a big victory.
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I would hardly call this a victory for Obama

He has been thown in a cess pool with so much **** there is no end in sight. Even if this is geared in all the right ways IT'S TOO SMALL TO HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE OVERALL ECONOMY FOR MANY MONTHS.

Plus the $787 B is small in comparison to the $1.5 to $2 T - also on the slate to address this mess but Congress can't do squat to stop it. If Obama didn't do anything .... then we'd really have a reason to bitch and complain.... so to the largest degree at least he is acknowledging this is a very serious situation and has to be a top priority. When - and if - he really screws up I'd be the FIRST to say something.

For now if we focus on how it happened - and why it happened - then Obama is essentially out of the picture altogether. So anyway I don't see this as a victory for him at all - it simply shows that a new President is fulfilling the role he was elected to carry out (or at least appears to be making an effort on that behalf) - but to me that is expected and he is only doing his job.

When he fails to do his job - that's when I'll come to life.
 
Top link is a recent article saying:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid predicted Friday that Congress will finish its work on a massive, $787 billion economic stimulus plan, possibly by day's end, giving President Barack Obama a big victory.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090213/ap_on_go_co/congress_stimulus

On the same page is a link to ABC's 3 minute interview with Dave Ramsey.
I'm not a fan, but Ramsey says there is not enough money in Washington to fix this mess and I agree. He also says freeing up more credit to people who couldn't afford to buy a house is what started this crap in the first place. Why do they think doing that again will help? Again, duh!

VIDEO:Dave Ramsey explains how the stimulus plan will affect you.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=11990048&ch=4226720&src=news
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Pelosi's mouse slated for $30M slice of cheese

"Talk about a pet project. A tiny mouse with the longtime backing of a political giant may soon reap the benefits of the economic-stimulus package.

Lawmakers and administration officials divulged Wednesday that the $789 billion economic stimulus bill being finalized behind closed doors in Congress includes $30 million for wetlands restoration that the Obama administration intends to spend in the San Francisco Bay Area to protect, among other things, the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/12/earmark-less-bill-gives-pelosis-mouse-cookie/

What is the definition of an earmark? At least this mouse is really getting some US Government cheese. :laugh:

CB
 
CountryBoy said:
Well from one of the chattering class to one of the elitist class, we do care about pork in the stimulus package. Chuckme Schumer is a perfect example of the type of people running this country and trying to jam this welfare package past us. Man these people are really arrogant. :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEfICUoWKBw

These people are counting on us staying dumb and taking the bribe they are trying to buy us off with, with our own money. The pride of the Dem party.:laugh:

CB
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Well I for one care. :(

CB
 
CountryBoy said:
Strip-Club Chief Is What Obama Could Afford With Bank-Pay Limit

By Tom Randall, Alex Nussbaum and Peter Robison

Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Eric Langan could run a U.S. bank, based on his $494,713 salary last year, according to President Barack Obama. Langan would rather stay in his job, overseeing 18 strip clubs as chief executive officer of Rick’s Cabaret International Inc.

“A bank? No. I’m not interested in working for a bank,” Langan said in a telephone interview from his office in Houston. Besides, he just got a raise to $600,000, putting him $100,000 over Obama’s cap for a top official of a financial institution receiving federal bailout funds.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aEr44JakFZJA&refer=home

I just got a chucklle out of this, at least he won't have to look at the ugly mugs of our illustrious representatives. :nuts: CB
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:laugh: At least there are still a few businesses out there that are thriving without
government bail-outs. It's good to see somebody happy with their job. :D
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Strip-Club Chief Is What Obama Could Afford With Bank-Pay Limit

By Tom Randall, Alex Nussbaum and Peter Robison

Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Eric Langan could run a U.S. bank, based on his $494,713 salary last year, according to President Barack Obama. Langan would rather stay in his job, overseeing 18 strip clubs as chief executive officer of Rick’s Cabaret International Inc.

“A bank? No. I’m not interested in working for a bank,” Langan said in a telephone interview from his office in Houston. Besides, he just got a raise to $600,000, putting him $100,000 over Obama’s cap for a top official of a financial institution receiving federal bailout funds.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aEr44JakFZJA&refer=home

I just got a chucklle out of this, at least he won't have to look at the ugly mugs of our illustrious representatives. :nuts:

CB
 
budnipper1 said:
I think it's comical that a source like media matters should be considered more truthful than information provided by Rush, or any other "conservative" thinker. This site is as biased as any other, only it leans hard-left instead of right. Not surprising either that it's based in Washington, D.C. :D

Look at their views on religion, gun-control, abortion, immigration, yada-yada...
http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/

Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.
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So, Budnipper-

Does that mean you just donated $50 to media matters? :cheesy:
 
CountryBoy said:
Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

"Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.

Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version). "

Later in the article

"But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

"Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt. "

That sure brings back some historical significance. (My comment)

If you really are honest about knowing what this Infrastructure Stimulus Package :rolleyes: plans for your future health care, you'll want to read this, but then I'm sure there are many folks that believe that the old should just be left to die like in the '30's. (Again my comment)

CB
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Logan's Run was a highly entertaining movie, but I don't want it made into public policy! Especially since I'm over thirty!:nuts:
 
Well from one of the chattering class to one of the elitist class, we do care about pork in the stimulus package. Chuckme Schumer is a perfect example of the type of people running this country and trying to jam this welfare package past us. Man these people are really arrogant. :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEfICUoWKBw

These people are counting on us staying dumb and taking the bribe they are trying to buy us off with, with our own money. The pride of the Dem party.:laugh:

CB
 
James48843 said:
Let me guess CB- I bet you heard that scare tactic from Rush Limbaugh yesterday, didn't you?

Here is the truth:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200902100001

The plan works to establish a standardized electronic recordkeeping system- not to have federal control of what care your doctor is giving. That's simply false.

But don't let facts get in the way...
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I think it's comical that a source like media matters should be considered more truthful than information provided by Rush, or any other "conservative" thinker. This site is as biased as any other, only it leans hard-left instead of right. Not surprising either that it's based in Washington, D.C. :D

Look at their views on religion, gun-control, abortion, immigration, yada-yada...
http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/

Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.
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James48843 said:
Let me guess CB- I bet you heard that scare tactic from Rush Limbaugh yesterday, didn't you?

Here is the truth:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200902100001

The plan works to establish a standardized electronic recordkeeping system- not to have federal control of what care your doctor is giving. That's simply false.

But don't let facts get in the way...
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I missed this one and I listen to music when I go home, so much of talk radio lib or con is pretty boring, it's always the same ol same ol.

And the fact comment, I'm not even going to dignify.

CB
 
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