I give up

Besides, if you cashed out of a 401K too early, you'd have to pay a hefty tax: 10% early withdrawal plus about 28-30% income tax. That's a lot of ground to attempt to make up. And if you do make up that much, you'd be paying some good capital gains taxes. So, it's looking like you'd need to get something like a 40-50% return just to break even!!
 
tsptalk said:
This is such a great example of why sentiment surveys are very important to watch. Looking back, brushout made the post on Nov 21 - so far the low of the bear.

It may not be THE low, but at the next buying opportunity low, we'll probably see a similar post.

brushout, this is not about you. If you were thinking that, thousands/millions of others were as well. If you are still watching, see this page ... www.tsptalk.com/sentiment.php

Good luck!
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The exact same thing crossed my mind when I read brushout's post. I'm still just leery enough tho to wait for the confirming chart signal(s) I'm looking for. Maybe too cautious, maybe not.
 
tsptalk said:
This is such a great example of why sentiment surveys are very important to watch. Looking back, brushout made the post on Nov 21 - so far the low of the bear.

It may not be THE low, but at the next buying opportunity low, we'll probably see a similar post.

brushout, this is not about you. If you were thinking that, thousands/millions of others were as well. If you are still watching, see this page ... www.tsptalk.com/sentiment.php

Good luck!
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Good point, Tom!
 
James48843 said:
Believe it or not, you are a good sign. If you are thinking about cashing it all in and going elsewhere, we MUST be near a bottom.
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This is such a great example of why sentiment surveys are very important to watch. Looking back, brushout made the post on Nov 21 - so far the low of the bear.

It may not be THE low, but at the next buying opportunity low, we'll probably see a similar post.

brushout, this is not about you. If you were thinking that, thousands/millions of others were as well. If you are still watching, see this page ... www.tsptalk.com/sentiment.php

Good luck!
 
Frixxxx said:
That's right, you have that 1% going in to your account by default....FERS, gotta love it!
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Sure you have the default 1%, but you also have matching contributions... So yes, you "gotta love it!"

There is nothing wrong with TSP (OK, except the limit on interfund transfers). What is usually wrong is a TSP participant's fund allocation does not match the participant's tolerance for risk. If you do not have the personality to think of a market downturn as a "sale" than the G fund is your friend.
 
brushout-

Believe it or not, you are a good sign. If you are thinking about cashing it all in and going elsewhere, we MUST be near a bottom.


By the way- please keep the muzzle of that M-4 pointed downrange. Too many easy targets here.

Thanks- good luck- it will be back sooner or later. Keep your head down. Thank you for your service.
 
brushout said:
After reading, it looks like I will just have to sit here and suffer as I watch our TSP accounts go to zero. I will still have my M-4 to cling to. lol :cool:
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Dude, it'll go back up.

If it's that bad for you, just cash out into (G) until the rebound instead of completely cashing out.

It will rebound, and when it does it's going to be one heckofa ride!

So, just continue to accumulate cash in (G) to prepare for the ride.
 
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Before you apply for an in-service withdrawal, read the booklet TSP In-Service Withdrawals. Use the Account Access section of this Web site or complete Form TSP-75, Age-Based In-Service Withdrawal Request, or Form TSP-76, Financial Hardship In-Service Withdrawal Request (depending on the type of withdrawal you are requesting). Both forms are available from this Web site or from the TSP.

If you have a pending application for another in-service withdrawal, or for a TSP loan, at the time your request is received, your request will not be accepted. Only one request for an in-service withdrawal or a loan is permitted at a time.

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If you make an age-based withdrawal from your account, you will not be eligible for a partial withdrawal from that account after you separate from service.
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brushout said:
I have thought about this long and hard. Does anyone know what I need to do to completely cash out? I know I will have to pay penalties and tax..Got it. I just want what is left of my money and I will go play somewhere else.

I think I can do better using my TSP money to buy silver, gold and M-4s.

Thanks to anyone that can help. Yes, I know I am a loon, you don't have to tel me any more.
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you have to resign/quit
 
budnipper1 said:
The first time I found it was after I logged on to My Account with the TSP website. Later, after I had signed off, I could still access the pages from the homepage without signing back in. Maybe it was a cookie thing... Did you paste the link in your browser from TSP's homepage? Sorry it didn't work for you. I'm sure you will figure it out. It's a 20 page pdf file booklet about in-service withdrawals.
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got it budnipper, I'm Sorry... :sick:
 
poolman said:
Does not work for me Budnipper. Just tried it...;)
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The first time I found it was after I logged on to My Account with the TSP website. Later, after I had signed off, I could still access the pages from the homepage without signing back in. Maybe it was a cookie thing... Did you paste the link in your browser from TSP's homepage? Sorry it didn't work for you. I'm sure you will figure it out. It's a 20 page pdf file booklet about in-service withdrawals.
 
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