FEDERAL EMPLOYEE DATA STOLEN!

Appreciate the heads up on the prescriptions. The IRS scams have been out there a long time but the prescription drug scam sounds worrisome...I guess they also have all our health records...sheesh:notrust:

FS
 
New CCs with the chips are intended to minimize the bank's/credit union's losses, no?

The dismaying probabilities created by the decisions in the management levels in OPM are mainly individual pain from blackmail and identity theft and damage to the country's national security it would seem. And this has been ongoing. And expanding.

But since it's government, with everyone in the management chain having ensured anonymity or spreading the decisions that constrained the IT professionals from making protection the highest priority, only bruised egos and a transfer or two will result. Anyone know of major firings/demotions/prosecutions?
 
Lots of wierdness going on out there. We received a letter from Federal BC asking us to verify a list of prescriptions received by us? Odd thing was that several of them were prescribed by a Doctor we have never seen. :notrust: Also, my spouse received a scam phone call from "Internal Revenue Service" . Call was for Angela Hoov? Not even close! When ask whom was calling they responded this is Officer Ravi! :D
 
Interesting! My credit union just reissued my credit card with a chip in it yesterday. I was wondering what sparked that since they never mentioned they were doing that.
 
FogSailing said:
Scary story KKZN. Sounds like it's about time to deep six the technology as far as banking is concerned and move back to paper. I'm of the opinion it would be more secure for the individual.

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My current bank just sent me my new cards with the "CAC-like" chip in it. (Credit cards have also been reissued with this technology.) I want to know when POS machines are going to be mandated by law to meet the new requirement.
 
Scary story KKZN. Sounds like it's about time to deep six the technology as far as banking is concerned and move back to paper. I'm of the opinion it would be more secure for the individual.

FS
 
Someone I know personally just found out 50k in military federal loans were taken out in their name and distributed in January 2015. They found out because the loans were consolidated automatically and became overdue since the monthly payment went up.

They've never been in the military.
 
FogSailing said:
I don't know about you KKO, but after I retired I still visit DOE Facilities occasionally to stop in and say hi to friends. When I was in, I had a limited security clearance and even though I'm retired, I'm still in their system (after 8 years). Many of my old friends are still active and they feel comfortable having me stop by to say hello. Besides, I worked as a private contractor for a while and had access through my contractor channels. If my intentions were nefarious, I'd probably get away doing some damage first before the storm trooper showed up on my doorstep. That's the rub in all this, it really undermines trust. The OPM idiots who allowed this to happen should be put behind bars. This is beyond negligence. I've decided I don't want to be dirk diggler, I'd rather be magic mike. :banana:

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Pshh, when I left, they took me off the pre-TSA list within a few days! :notrust:
 
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/20/adultery-site-ashley-madison-hacked-personal-data-leaked.html

if you thought 21 million gov employees getting hacked was bad, think about this:

37 million users of ashley madisson, cougar life, and established men websites got hacked. that means there are almost double the number of cheaters who arrange their extra-marital affairs online as there are gov employees. that is a lot of cheaters, and doesn't even include the cheaters who meet and arrange their romps the old fashioned way like at a bar, pta meeting, or church.

if you thought it was bad hackers know you work for the epa and count ppm of microcarbons in the atmosphere for your day job, just wait until they find out in the evenings you like to hook up with dissatisfied chubby housewives from wisconsin for a little extra icing on the struedel if you know what i mean.

i think it would be interesting to cross-reference those two hack lists and see what pops up. those numbers are a sorry snapshot of our society's selfish immoral state of affairs if you ask me (pun intended). i'm just glad i used my mom's credit card number and username when i logged in that one time. it was only one time, i swear.
 
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k0nkuzh0n said:
Well we were talking about being able to get jobs outside of the federal government... I think you went a little off scope there.

And I think people took my use of 'only executives' a little more literal than I meant; I didn't mean SESers when I said executives... I meant people who would be of significant position of decision making in a private company.. which would mostly be executives and contracting.

If a federal employee leaves, whatever access he had while a gov employee would be revoked (...I'd hope).
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I don't know about you KKO, but after I retired I still visit DOE Facilities occasionally to stop in and say hi to friends. When I was in, I had a limited security clearance and even though I'm retired, I'm still in their system (after 8 years). Many of my old friends are still active and they feel comfortable having me stop by to say hello. Besides, I worked as a private contractor for a while and had access through my contractor channels. If my intentions were nefarious, I'd probably get away doing some damage first before the storm trooper showed up on my doorstep. That's the rub in all this, it really undermines trust. The OPM idiots who allowed this to happen should be put behind bars. This is beyond negligence. I've decided I don't want to be dirk diggler, I'd rather be magic mike. :banana:

FS
 
I'm not worried about any background check, what concerns me most is id theft, including fingerprints.

I don't know that much about bigbiz private sector security measures these days, perhaps they include fingerprints. and I wonder if there is a risk hackers would be able to backdoor into other systems simply by using stolen personal id information if the hackers find out you've working for a new employer they have an interest in hacking. And if the company themselves doesn't know the degree of risk, why would they take on a former gov employee or contract employee that got hacked? so many ways this mess could all keep going in terms of consequences for years.
 
Bravo!

Good arguments on both sides.

I would just like to add:

1. "Actions" or Acts and omissions one may do or not are done with a certain expectation of privacy or of a limited/specific audience. (Sex tapes, etc.)

2. One may give consent to reveal these acts/omissions to a limited/specific audience. (Background Check ... those with a right/need to know, friend, etc.)

3. One therefore accepts living with the consequences of their acts/omissions AND with their consented revelations as long as the terms of their revelations/creation are maintained. This is fair.

4. However, one who has not given consent for the revelation of their acts/omissions to be uploaded, or allowed to be to uploaded by third parties, to the internet has not been treated fairly, and should not have to live with those consequences.
 
haha that is quite a stretch :laugh:... I guess I don't really sympathize with these theoretical people with such baggage. Everyone has to live with the consequences of their actions, data breach or not.
 
k0nkuzh0n said:
Well we were talking about being able to get jobs outside of the federal government... I think you went a little off scope there.

And I think people took my use of 'only executives' a little more literal than I meant; I didn't mean SESers when I said executives... I meant people who would be of significant position of decision making in a private company.. which would mostly be executives and contracting.

If a federal employee leaves, whatever access he had while a gov employee would be revoked (...I'd hope).
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Let us say you are a server administrator or a database administrator or an application programmer for Goldman Sachs.

Eight years ago you were a low level server admin for some entity in the Federal government. You had to get a security clearance because everybody in the IT field was required to get one - even those who never sniff secret information. Let us further postulate that you had some oddity in your background where the Feds decided that the risk of employment vs blackmail was acceptable. Maybe a very messy divorce or a bankruptcy or a nude dancing gig in Enumclaw Washington or whatever.

Now the call comes. You are either seeking a new and higher level position or are happy with the Goldman Sachs gig. Your little experiment with whatever now threatens that employment. Or, maybe the potential new employer is concerned that a call will be made to you regarding information in your background check. That new employer cannot review that background check to make the determination. Maybe it is smarter to just not hire a former Fed whose background check was compromised.
 
Boghie said:
Identity theft is a pain in the buttocks - but it can be dealt with.

How do you think foreign countries 'recruit' spies? And, why is it only executives that can be blackmailed? While the recent spate of high profile folks who have distributed secret information were not necessarily spies, just look at the recent past and the more distant past. Finally, who really cares about executives when the mother load is handled by folks like Snowden and Manning - hardly executives. Are there now more Snowden's out there shuffling stuff off to the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, and North Koreans?

What do you think a technically savvy espionage organization can do with digitized fingerprints? Maybe open things that depend on biometric security.
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Well we were talking about being able to get jobs outside of the federal government... I think you went a little off scope there.

And I think people took my use of 'only executives' a little more literal than I meant; I didn't mean SESers when I said executives... I meant people who would be of significant position of decision making in a private company.. which would mostly be executives and contracting.

If a federal employee leaves, whatever access he had while a gov employee would be revoked (...I'd hope).
 
what size thigh high leather boots do you wear now? never mind i can just check your amazon order history. still got your catholic school skirts?
 
Bless me Father for I have sinned.... and probably will continue to do so, so if any foreign or domestic hacker wants to blackmail me...pfft! gaa ahead, have at it - take my identity.....I like role playing.

On a serious note - what can we really do to protect our identities? Buy into a protection program like "Life Lock" or others...aren't those programs just as vulnerable to hackers as gov't/corporate machines? It just seems to me that nothing is really secure once it's out there. Changing my passwords on my financial accounts and checking my credit reports is about all I think I have control over. I'm not going to fret over over it until it happens.
 
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