fabijo
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Re: Birchtree's account talk
5T, if you are in the FAA, I could help you work around that issue.
5T, if you are in the FAA, I could help you work around that issue.
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Re: Birchtree's account talk
No fabijo; I'm quite a bit lower on the aviation industry food chain. I repair heavy aircraft fuel tanks and fuel systems; crawl around jet fuel; AKA - Tank Rat.
No fabijo; I'm quite a bit lower on the aviation industry food chain. I repair heavy aircraft fuel tanks and fuel systems; crawl around jet fuel; AKA - Tank Rat.
fabijo
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Re: Birchtree's account talk
LOL. Either way, you might be able find a different proxy server to use. I accidentally discovered around 4 or 5 different proxy servers in the FAA by typing in the name of the proxy server in my browser window to see what would happen. It listed some code that had a list of other FAA proxy servers. I noticed that the one we are supposed to use often filters us from sites, but others let us in.
To find out what proxy server you are using at work, look in your Internet Explorer menu for Internet Options, then click on the Connections tab, then click on the LAN Settings button. On the bottom of the form is a checkbox that says, "Use a proxy server...." Then try typing in that address into your browser window to see what happens. Who knows? There might be other servers less restrictive than yours!
LOL. Either way, you might be able find a different proxy server to use. I accidentally discovered around 4 or 5 different proxy servers in the FAA by typing in the name of the proxy server in my browser window to see what would happen. It listed some code that had a list of other FAA proxy servers. I noticed that the one we are supposed to use often filters us from sites, but others let us in.
To find out what proxy server you are using at work, look in your Internet Explorer menu for Internet Options, then click on the Connections tab, then click on the LAN Settings button. On the bottom of the form is a checkbox that says, "Use a proxy server...." Then try typing in that address into your browser window to see what happens. Who knows? There might be other servers less restrictive than yours!
Re: Birchtree's account talk
Around here, you could easily get your hand slapped for that; A nice Time-Off Award. :nuts:
Around here, you could easily get your hand slapped for that; A nice Time-Off Award. :nuts:
Re: Birchtree's account talk
Fabijo,
I don't understand why this is, but some agencies have tighter policies than others regarding the use of the internet for personal reasons. Some agencies initially gave quite a lot of freedom and later started to restrict their use. Why so much of a discrepancy? There is software to detect each pc and see what the employee is doing at any time. Is this something left to the discretion of local agency heads or what?
Fabijo,
I don't understand why this is, but some agencies have tighter policies than others regarding the use of the internet for personal reasons. Some agencies initially gave quite a lot of freedom and later started to restrict their use. Why so much of a discrepancy? There is software to detect each pc and see what the employee is doing at any time. Is this something left to the discretion of local agency heads or what?
Re: Birchtree's account talk
What's even more humorous is there is a CHATROOM web site on the Secure USAF Web Portal that has quite an array of ... eh... lets say... topics blazing by the screen 24/7. Much, much worse than anything ever displayed here. Why that is allowed, and financial web sites and information are not... is well beyond my level of comprehension.
What's even more humorous is there is a CHATROOM web site on the Secure USAF Web Portal that has quite an array of ... eh... lets say... topics blazing by the screen 24/7. Much, much worse than anything ever displayed here. Why that is allowed, and financial web sites and information are not... is well beyond my level of comprehension.
fabijo
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Re: Birchtree's account talk
I'm not so sure if it is about agency policy as it is about how much an agency cares to spend on getting filtering services. Then if they do pay for those services, they may have a choice as to who to go with. Depending on who they go with, you might wind up with a site incorrectly filtered as an MP3 site or personal finance site.
I'm not so sure if it is about agency policy as it is about how much an agency cares to spend on getting filtering services. Then if they do pay for those services, they may have a choice as to who to go with. Depending on who they go with, you might wind up with a site incorrectly filtered as an MP3 site or personal finance site.
Show-me
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Re: Birchtree's account talk
Use caution! I for one can testify that Big Brother is watching or can watch every site you got to and probably your key strokes if you have to log in with an individual ID and password. Managers/supervisors can get access to you Agency E-Mail accounts. We probably should move this talk to another thread to get other input.
Use caution! I for one can testify that Big Brother is watching or can watch every site you got to and probably your key strokes if you have to log in with an individual ID and password. Managers/supervisors can get access to you Agency E-Mail accounts. We probably should move this talk to another thread to get other input.
CountryBoy
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We (Corps of Engineers) just got an email this past week that bandwidth has become a problem and they are going to crack down on non business websites, ie financial websites. They've threatened this before, but nothing has ever come from it.
It'll be a real drag if I'm unable to access this site in the future. It's not like I'm surfing porn or something. This crackdown could directly affect my retirement and with the dirth of assistance from Uncle on how to handle our funds, you'd think they would be a little more opened minded. Open minded???? what was I thinking.
Here's to keeping my fingers crossed that this site remains available.
CB
It'll be a real drag if I'm unable to access this site in the future. It's not like I'm surfing porn or something. This crackdown could directly affect my retirement and with the dirth of assistance from Uncle on how to handle our funds, you'd think they would be a little more opened minded. Open minded???? what was I thinking.
Here's to keeping my fingers crossed that this site remains available.
CB
mailmanusa
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Some of you may know that I operate by getting instant email notifications of threads I subscribe to on my cell phone. While its a far cry from having access to a desktop it works ok. I cant post moves to be tracked but I can gather info in helping make a decision then phone in IFT to Thriftline to make changes. At the Post Office I work for my super is pretty cool and when timing is right will allow me to peek at the forum from his desktop but I dont dare sign in. So far still getting access there. The cell phone is one way to cope. If you can combine that with slightly longer term trading stratigy you can probably get by pretty good without a desk top. Sometimes I phone home to the wife and have her look up stuff on the putor at home for me. Its always a constant grapple to get the most updated info right before the wire. I get trembling with adrenalin sometimes.
mailmanusa
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Palm pilot or other wireless internet access devices are an option too but I hear access ability and quality can vary from area to area. I will probably be looking into these things in the not to distant future.
Very good idea! It'll take the pressure from supervisors intent on exercising control, and you will be able to do you IFT's properly. If you go that route, do not tell anyone why you are taking a laptop to work. State other reasons. Envy has a way of creeping in, and the next thing they will allege raise is that you are still taking government time and not your own. Good luck.
Show-me
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Here are my thoughts on the subject.
There is very limited information on the subject and I believe that may be on purpose. If you have to ID and password into the system it is more of a concern because it makes it easier to track were you have been. I read of one case where a employee’s agency e-mail was being monitored by their supervisor to see if they were receiving or sending union related information. Nothing came of it, but now you know too.
You may get the default statement when logging into a agency PC. “When browsing this site, all activity and information may be monitored, intercepted, recorded, read, copied, or captured and disclosed by and to authorized personnel for official purposes, including criminal prosecution.” Or something along that line. Believe it!
CountryBoy may have nailed it in part because we are having the same issues…………..bandwidth. Also server space with e-mail. To many people saving cartoons, joke, and other no work items on the server.
I understand as much as anyone that this is our retirement and that out agencies and tsp.gov do not help us out much. Until there are clearer rules of engagement I don’t know what to do.
My point is that they are aware of us, as is tsp.gov. It would not be hard for the OIG to make a case of excessive offsite use or other charges should they get the urge or a request from a manager. Each agency will be a bit different depending on their managers/supervisors. Whether you are liked or disliked will be another issue key to this. We all know that if you are liked, some can look the other way, ect. It’s a slippery slope, so be careful. Like I said, it has not been made completely clear for a reason. If they want to discipline you this would be a good way to give you enough rope to hang yourself with.
I for one may have gotten carried away with offsite usage but have learned my lesson. I have not been disciplined or had a discussion about it. I have been made aware of the fact that monitoring is going on, on a individual basis. I may have to drop off of the tracker and change my strategy. By not looking at the market 30 minute before the deadline I have not been able to get the information I need to trade in and out as much. I am going to look into mailmanusa's method.
If anyone has a personal experience or knowledge to share I would be interested to hear about it. Please feel free to PM me and it will be kept private.
I will add that our opinions are one thing and policy is another.
There is very limited information on the subject and I believe that may be on purpose. If you have to ID and password into the system it is more of a concern because it makes it easier to track were you have been. I read of one case where a employee’s agency e-mail was being monitored by their supervisor to see if they were receiving or sending union related information. Nothing came of it, but now you know too.
You may get the default statement when logging into a agency PC. “When browsing this site, all activity and information may be monitored, intercepted, recorded, read, copied, or captured and disclosed by and to authorized personnel for official purposes, including criminal prosecution.” Or something along that line. Believe it!
CountryBoy may have nailed it in part because we are having the same issues…………..bandwidth. Also server space with e-mail. To many people saving cartoons, joke, and other no work items on the server.
I understand as much as anyone that this is our retirement and that out agencies and tsp.gov do not help us out much. Until there are clearer rules of engagement I don’t know what to do.
My point is that they are aware of us, as is tsp.gov. It would not be hard for the OIG to make a case of excessive offsite use or other charges should they get the urge or a request from a manager. Each agency will be a bit different depending on their managers/supervisors. Whether you are liked or disliked will be another issue key to this. We all know that if you are liked, some can look the other way, ect. It’s a slippery slope, so be careful. Like I said, it has not been made completely clear for a reason. If they want to discipline you this would be a good way to give you enough rope to hang yourself with.
I for one may have gotten carried away with offsite usage but have learned my lesson. I have not been disciplined or had a discussion about it. I have been made aware of the fact that monitoring is going on, on a individual basis. I may have to drop off of the tracker and change my strategy. By not looking at the market 30 minute before the deadline I have not been able to get the information I need to trade in and out as much. I am going to look into mailmanusa's method.
If anyone has a personal experience or knowledge to share I would be interested to hear about it. Please feel free to PM me and it will be kept private.
I will add that our opinions are one thing and policy is another.
fabijo
Well-known member
:laugh: lol
Yup, I wish we could get paid to do this. I'd definitely enjoy making this my job.
fabijo
Well-known member
On my end, it seems the rule of thumb is that as long as your work is complete and all certifications are done on time, they'll ignore your internet surfing - unless you are looking at porn.
VirginiaBob
Member
Same in my case as well, nobody cares as long as your work is getting done within budget and schedule.
